Sep 13, 2025
In this episode, we sit down with two of today’s most
prominent defenders of science: Professor Michael
Mann, world-renowned climate scientist, and
Professor Peter Hotez, vaccine researcher and
advocate for global health equity. Together, they’ve co-authored
Science Under Siege, a powerful new book exposing the
forces behind the global anti-science movement.
We explore the surprising parallels between climate
denial and vaccine misinformation, and how both Mann and Hotez have
faced personal attacks simply for standing by the evidence. They
break down the five key drivers of anti-science –
plutocrats, professionals, propagandists, petrostates, and
the press – and reveal how these forces shape public
discourse and policy.
This conversation is not just about diagnosing the
problem, but about pathways forward: the urgent role of science
communication, strategies to counter misinformation, and reasons to
remain hopeful in the fight to reclaim trust in science.
www.michaemann.net
www.peterhotez.org
www.scribepublications.com.au/books-authors/books/science-under-siege-9781761381669